If you need HYPP info on a horse you are buying/breeding - Page 4

blueberry · 03-10-2008, 11:06 AM

Championhorse--you got your wish--here is my hypp n/h gal Genie

championhorse · 03-10-2008, 10:06 PM

Very pretty, she looks great in purple too.

HyPPer · 03-11-2008, 09:49 PM

I have an Appaloosa gelding whose grandsire and GGSire is Impressive. I know he is at least N/H but could possibley be H/H....I've seen him have a small attack. Is it worth testing?

ToveroMom · 03-11-2008, 09:54 PM

Well I had a daughter of Impressive and she tested N/N. why do you know your horse is N/H?
There are other issues that can mimic an HYPP attack.
I would test.

Linebacker55 · 03-11-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ToveroMom

Well I had a daughter of Impressive and she tested N/N. why do you know your horse is N/H?
There are other issues that can mimic an HYPP attack.
I would test.

I second... get them tested, always best to know if and what the issues are that could be happening.

HyPPer · 03-14-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim Pikkens

One thing I've learned about HYPP n/h is to keep the water going in the front end and the urine out the other, which carries potassium with it. That is why a diuretic is given to these horses on longer trailer rides as many horses don't drink in the trailer. Sometimes show stress can put horses off their water and all owners should be diligent about enticing the horse to drink, not just HYPP owners. I've been told lots of stupid stuff about these horses but a lengthy discussion with my vet cleared this up. eg. "if he gets a little broncy it's because of HYPP" - not, it's a hole in his training.

What do you mean "broncy"?

HyPPer · 03-14-2008, 07:49 PM

The attack was exactly as discribed by many veterinarians and websites. It went away with exercise and he was on alot of K filled food. I didn't know the whole potassium thing at the time though.

ToveroMom · 03-16-2008, 08:46 PM

So you are not going to have him tested...why in the world not?
He may have some OTHER health issue you are neglecting to treat because of your self diagnosis..I mean the test is so easy-I do not understand it.

pvf · 03-16-2008, 08:51 PM

I have to agree I think testing your horse would be a very wise decision. The test is very easy and you usually get the results in a week.

Just_Another_Love007 · 05-26-2008, 10:18 PM

just found outhat one of my trainesrs mares is impressive bred on her mothers side. Impressive is her great great grand sire on her mothers side
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luminators+design

ima askl her if she has been trsted or not

Linebacker55 · 05-28-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Another_Love007

just found outhat one of my trainesrs mares is impressive bred on her mothers side. Impressive is her great great grand sire on her mothers side
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luminators+design

ima askl her if she has been trsted or not

Why do you care if someone elses horse has been tested??? Be careful some people are VERY testy over that stuff

Just_Another_Love007 · 05-29-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Linebacker55

Why do you care if someone elses horse has been tested??? Be careful some people are VERY testy over that stuff

i care because this is MY trainers horse and i really like my trainer. and she loves her horse. but i asked and she didnt get mad just told me that she was HYPP N/N

Linebacker55 · 05-29-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Another_Love007

i care because this is MY trainers horse and i really like my trainer. and she loves her horse. but i asked and she didnt get mad just told me that she was HYPP N/N

You make it sound as if it would be the end of the world.

Just_Another_Love007 · 05-29-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Linebacker55

You make it sound as if it would be the end of the world.

well sorry but im not trying to. she wants to breed this mare and i cant wait to see what she produces (black and white overo). hopefully a breeding to a homozygous stallion. shes registered APHA and trying to get pinto on her. shes a very valuble horse and with HYPP she wouldnt be able to be bred(well she could but it would produce HYPP baby)

Linebacker55 · 05-29-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Another_Love007

well sorry but im not trying to. she wants to breed this mare and i cant wait to see what she produces (black and white overo). hopefully a breeding to a homozygous stallion. shes registered APHA and trying to get pinto on her. shes a very valuble horse and with HYPP she wouldnt be able to be bred(well she could but it would produce HYPP baby)

it COULD produce an HYPP Baby, but yes in mine and many others opinions it should not be bred..... I just want to make sure you knew all that you can about HYPP, there are MANY out there who still breed for it, and desire it....

Just_Another_Love007 · 05-29-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Linebacker55

it COULD produce an HYPP Baby, but yes in mine and many others opinions it should not be bred..... I just want to make sure you knew all that you can about HYPP, there are MANY out there who still breed for it, and desire it....

no my trainer would NEVER breed for the hypp gene because of risks and potentially high vet bills(vets suck here like really suck high priced and dont do a good job) but Montana shows no signs of it and has been tested HYPP N/N
*does happy dance* im glad too. she will become a lesson horse once she is of age and passed her showing years when one of her kids wil become new show horsie.

zippinalong · 07-05-2008, 09:05 PM

I have a halter bred filly out of Mr. Sockett who initially tested NEGATIVE for HYPP-but had some very mild clinical signs-sure enough-retested her and she is N/H. The tests can be inaccurate...I probably never would have purchased her if I had knew she was HYPP because I had initially planned to breed her down the road. That is out of the question now as I feel this needs to stop and shouldn't be continued. It's not the end of the world if a horse has HYPP as long as you are well aware of it.Twenty years ago,I had an own son of Impressive who had fairly bad spells-although never fatal.HYPP wasn't really talked about so I would feed him peppermint candy or place it in his water and he would be o.k.-I also gave him electrolyte (sodium also pushes potassium out of the cells)paste and walk him out. I had NO CLUE what was actually going on-I thought he was dehydrated or had hypoglycemia (true in a way)-I generally have steered clear of Impressive line bred horses because of that and the biased opinion that I considered them not the sharpest tools in the shed.

HYPP has been considered a good thing in halter circles where most don't have to go and ride. If it is not severe and controlled...the N/H thing is not a death sentence.Some horses NEVER display symptoms..but one always needs to be well aware of what can possibly happen-and carry Karo syrup or hard candies that can give the glucose needed to push the potassium out of the cells when it does occur.

Linebacker55 · 07-07-2008, 09:01 PM

What clinc did the testing when it came back inaccurate?

ToveroMom · 07-18-2008, 09:23 PM

I would be interested in that info as well...please.

Fearless_Farms · 05-07-2009, 11:06 AM

We own several Impressive bred gelding - we have never had any health problems with them. Our oldest daughter just bought a paint mare (who is also Impressive bred) . . she's 4 years old now. When we brought her home she looked awesome! Now about 4 months later she looks to have dropped about 100 or so pounds. She is fed Puriana Safe Choice, she is fed 3 times a day, hay 3 times a day, water at all times & taken out daily for exercise. We just moved to a new place and don't have all of our fence up yet - hence no turn out

The place we took her from never had turn out either other than the occasional turn out in the round pen - but she looked wonderful.

Now my question is - - - is she showing signs of becoming HYPP positive or could there be another problem going on?

PLEASE, PLEASE offer any advise possible - thank you!!!!!!

03-10-2008, 11:06 AM
blueberry Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: great lakes area Posts: 921	Championhorse--you got your wish--here is my hypp n/h gal Genie __________________ Proud horse mom to: Genie the beauty queenie (4yo QH) Tess the best (6yo QH) "To err is human, to forgive is equine"

03-10-2008, 10:06 PM
championhorse Long Yearling Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,374	Very pretty, she looks great in purple too. __________________ Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.

03-11-2008, 09:49 PM
HyPPer Newborn Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 17	dealing with HyPP I have an Appaloosa gelding whose grandsire and GGSire is Impressive. I know he is at least N/H but could possibley be H/H....I've seen him have a small attack. Is it worth testing?

03-11-2008, 09:54 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Well I had a daughter of Impressive and she tested N/N. why do you know your horse is N/H? There are other issues that can mimic an HYPP attack. I would test. __________________

03-14-2008, 07:49 PM
HyPPer Newborn Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 17	The attack was exactly as discribed by many veterinarians and websites. It went away with exercise and he was on alot of K filled food. I didn't know the whole potassium thing at the time though.

03-16-2008, 08:46 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	So you are not going to have him tested...why in the world not? He may have some OTHER health issue you are neglecting to treat because of your self diagnosis..I mean the test is so easy-I do not understand it. __________________

03-16-2008, 08:51 PM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 8,276	I have to agree I think testing your horse would be a very wise decision. The test is very easy and you usually get the results in a week. __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

05-26-2008, 10:18 PM
Just_Another_Love007 Weanling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: florida Posts: 403	just found outhat one of my trainesrs mares is impressive bred on her mothers side. Impressive is her great great grand sire on her mothers side http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luminators+design ima askl her if she has been trsted or not

07-05-2008, 09:05 PM
zippinalong Newborn Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma city Posts: 17	I have a halter bred filly out of Mr. Sockett who initially tested NEGATIVE for HYPP-but had some very mild clinical signs-sure enough-retested her and she is N/H. The tests can be inaccurate...I probably never would have purchased her if I had knew she was HYPP because I had initially planned to breed her down the road. That is out of the question now as I feel this needs to stop and shouldn't be continued. It's not the end of the world if a horse has HYPP as long as you are well aware of it.Twenty years ago,I had an own son of Impressive who had fairly bad spells-although never fatal.HYPP wasn't really talked about so I would feed him peppermint candy or place it in his water and he would be o.k.-I also gave him electrolyte (sodium also pushes potassium out of the cells)paste and walk him out. I had NO CLUE what was actually going on-I thought he was dehydrated or had hypoglycemia (true in a way)-I generally have steered clear of Impressive line bred horses because of that and the biased opinion that I considered them not the sharpest tools in the shed. HYPP has been considered a good thing in halter circles where most don't have to go and ride. If it is not severe and controlled...the N/H thing is not a death sentence.Some horses NEVER display symptoms..but one always needs to be well aware of what can possibly happen-and carry Karo syrup or hard candies that can give the glucose needed to push the potassium out of the cells when it does occur. Last edited by zippinalong : 07-05-2008 at 09:08 PM. Reason: sp

07-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Linebacker55 Started Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,262	What clinc did the testing when it came back inaccurate? __________________ www.risingwaterqh.com RISING WATER QUARTER HORSES Home of World and Reserve World Champions AQHA/ABRA/IBHA

07-18-2008, 09:23 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	I would be interested in that info as well...please. __________________

05-07-2009, 11:06 AM
Fearless_Farms Newborn Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Redkay, Indiana Posts: 2	We own several Impressive bred gelding - we have never had any health problems with them. Our oldest daughter just bought a paint mare (who is also Impressive bred) . . she's 4 years old now. When we brought her home she looked awesome! Now about 4 months later she looks to have dropped about 100 or so pounds. She is fed Puriana Safe Choice, she is fed 3 times a day, hay 3 times a day, water at all times & taken out daily for exercise. We just moved to a new place and don't have all of our fence up yet - hence no turn out The place we took her from never had turn out either other than the occasional turn out in the round pen - but she looked wonderful. Now my question is - - - is she showing signs of becoming HYPP positive or could there be another problem going on? PLEASE, PLEASE offer any advise possible - thank you!!!!!!