*update* on This is b.s advice needed

kristin · 03-11-2009, 04:16 PM

moderators please move this if this is not in the right spot. almost a year ago i had wrote in under a place to vent about when i sent my mares off to be bred and they came back with a virus.
so i just wanted to let the ones that had replied and read the thread that we have a court date for the end of march. so fingers crossed, but i also need advice from fellow ht'ers. i recieved a phone call yesterday from texas i am in ohio from a court show wanting to air our case on tv. now granted the other party has to also agree and i havent made any yes's yet. they would pay our air fare round trip, hotel and food exepense. the next day tape the show. they would also to this for the other lady. now if we lose we lose, no money lost or gained persay. if she loses then they will pay her fines or what we are asking for in consideration for her time, so i guess im not sure what to do?
do i 1) say ok, have it exposed on national tv, but either way she is not out of pocket or 2) no no thaks and tryit here at our court and if we win she pays out of pocket?

please help!!!

95Harley · 03-11-2009, 04:20 PM

Just have to ask is it Judge Alex??? Personally the coverage wouldn't bother me --but what's the lessoned learned for her if someone else pays the bill??
NOTHING!! I'd stay in OH and make her pay the costs. JMO let us know what you decide to do.

mlh619 · 03-11-2009, 04:22 PM

I would say if she is a big time breeder that the exposure could be more damaging to her than the couple hundred/thousand out of her pocket. I think it depends on how bad you want to be on tv

kristin · 03-11-2009, 04:22 PM

yes it is judge alex. i am never home during the day so i really never even heard of him, mainly watch judge judy. but that is what i am torn between, it would be national exposure so lots of people would hear about it, but yes what lesson does she learn?

kristin · 03-11-2009, 04:24 PM

she is a small breeder so that wouldnt really damage her, but she has vet creditentals (sp) so that could hurt, i personally dont really want to be on tv and possibly making an a** out of myself, exposure would be nice to let more people know about this virus and more aware, than we would ever get in our local courts. but if she goes its a win win for her either way.

95Harley · 03-11-2009, 04:25 PM

Ok but what are the chances that the people who do watch his show are peo ple that would be doing business with her??? Kind of slim that the people likely to be affected would actually be watching. I say she needs to pay-- word of mouth can be just as damaging in a particular area.

rm185western · 03-11-2009, 04:26 PM

Interesting, and I'm not sure, so didn't vote. The only thing that I was wondering, if you win in Ohio, you'll be relying on her to actually pay up, yes? I know to my cost that winning the case isn't the same as getting the money

Now if you go to Texas, and you win, you're going to get your money. I suppose it depends what is important to you, compensation for you, or punishment for her.

Mind you if she loses in Texas, might not cost her financially, but a lot of people will know about it.

short_kid · 03-11-2009, 04:28 PM

It would depend on the judge for me. I would have it aired, that way people would know all about her. I remember your story and she needs to be outed.

ToveroMom · 03-11-2009, 04:30 PM

Yep-I say do it. Heck I did not even know he was here in Texas.
Too bad Texas Justice is no longer on-he was a horse guy!

kristin · 03-11-2009, 04:32 PM

interesting i never thought about it that way if we did win if we would even get the money. like you said 95 at least we would get the money, and her horses wouldnt suffer, because honestly i feel thats who would suffer the most whether we stay inour court or go national.im not sure that she is finacially stable, i mean who is. i know she has trouble getting hay every year for winter, but who doesnt.

short kid- hi, sorry it took so long to update everybody, was trying to get all of our facts together before we went to court. i would paste a link to the actually thread but im not sure how or if im allowed.

dodib · 03-11-2009, 04:39 PM

Personally I probably wouldn't do it on TV...
I have been to county small claims court and I was nervous!! I can't imagine if I knew it was on TV... I didn't say all I wanted etc becuase of the nerves...

kristin · 03-12-2009, 04:51 PM

well we are still waiting to see if the other party agrees. personally, if we stayed in our county or tv, either way i dont do good in front of judges, makes me nervous anyways. but we will see.

Sirita_88 · 03-12-2009, 05:03 PM

hmm. Judge judy was going to pay $5000 no matter what the outcome. Like whoever wins wins the money and the leftover is split between parties. Judge Alex is weakkkkk lol.

Gramma Sassy · 03-12-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rm185western

Interesting, and I'm not sure, so didn't vote. The only thing that I was wondering, if you win in Ohio, you'll be relying on her to actually pay up, yes? I know to my cost that winning the case isn't the same as getting the money

Now if you go to Texas, and you win, you're going to get your money. I suppose it depends what is important to you, compensation for you, or punishment for her.

Mind you if she loses in Texas, might not cost her financially, but a lot of people will know about it.

Listen to the voice of wisdom....and do you want vengance or justice?

kristin · 03-14-2009, 11:52 AM

grama sassy: i would have to say justice. just to let her know that we were kidding around when we said this was serious and wasnt something to just blow off.

PaintsQH · 03-14-2009, 01:17 PM

Anyway you can find the original thread? I dont know the whole story behind this so I wouldnt know what I would be voting on. Did they know the stallion had the virus and refuse to handle the situations, sorry im clueless

Sunlei · 03-14-2009, 01:55 PM

Sounds like a fun free vacation

I don't know what the max award is ,but it sounds like you have a Vets proof and can document your losses. Just what a Judge wants to see.

I remember your origional post, it was terrible what happened to your mares. With those pictures you have- it will be hard for the breeder to defend why she didn't notice all those sores.

She may say no to TV, if she has some way to defend against your Vets records. She may say yes aswell, to have a vacation and get her judgement paid.

Standing on TV and winning could reachout and educate thousands of mare owners about this issue. A lot of people love those shows and her name and town is said. Shows are taped in advance so you will have time to post the showing date....everyone in your town horse person or not will see you on TV and they will learn about that 'breeder' aswell.

In a regular court the issue/judgement is important or noticed by only a few people.

Sounds like an exiciting vacation and so cool they pay for everyone.

BabyMay · 03-14-2009, 02:18 PM

Thats what I was thinking.

rm185western · 03-14-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaintsQH

Anyway you can find the original thread? I dont know the whole story behind this so I wouldnt know what I would be voting on. Did they know the stallion had the virus and refuse to handle the situations, sorry im clueless

Here you go

http://forum.horsetopia.com/place-ve...85-so-b-s.html

ToveroMom · 03-14-2009, 03:10 PM

I won a judgement against a gal in CA for a dog loss..I won but I never got a dime from the judgement against her.
Winning does not mean you will recive the money.
I would go on TV..

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03-11-2009, 04:16 PM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	update on This is b.s advice needed moderators please move this if this is not in the right spot. almost a year ago i had wrote in under a place to vent about when i sent my mares off to be bred and they came back with a virus. so i just wanted to let the ones that had replied and read the thread that we have a court date for the end of march. so fingers crossed, but i also need advice from fellow ht'ers. i recieved a phone call yesterday from texas i am in ohio from a court show wanting to air our case on tv. now granted the other party has to also agree and i havent made any yes's yet. they would pay our air fare round trip, hotel and food exepense. the next day tape the show. they would also to this for the other lady. now if we lose we lose, no money lost or gained persay. if she loses then they will pay her fines or what we are asking for in consideration for her time, so i guess im not sure what to do? do i 1) say ok, have it exposed on national tv, but either way she is not out of pocket or 2) no no thaks and tryit here at our court and if we win she pays out of pocket? please help!!! __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

03-11-2009, 04:20 PM
95Harley Started Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Corner of IA, SD, NE Posts: 2,095	Just have to ask is it Judge Alex??? Personally the coverage wouldn't bother me --but what's the lessoned learned for her if someone else pays the bill?? NOTHING!! I'd stay in OH and make her pay the costs. JMO let us know what you decide to do. __________________ Horses are scared of 2 things- 1. Things that move 2. Things that don't.

03-11-2009, 04:22 PM
mlh619 Yearling Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sask, Canada Posts: 820	I would say if she is a big time breeder that the exposure could be more damaging to her than the couple hundred/thousand out of her pocket. I think it depends on how bad you want to be on tv

03-11-2009, 04:24 PM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	she is a small breeder so that wouldnt really damage her, but she has vet creditentals (sp) so that could hurt, i personally dont really want to be on tv and possibly making an a** out of myself, exposure would be nice to let more people know about this virus and more aware, than we would ever get in our local courts. but if she goes its a win win for her either way. __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

03-11-2009, 04:25 PM
95Harley Started Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Corner of IA, SD, NE Posts: 2,095	Ok but what are the chances that the people who do watch his show are peo ple that would be doing business with her??? Kind of slim that the people likely to be affected would actually be watching. I say she needs to pay-- word of mouth can be just as damaging in a particular area. __________________ Horses are scared of 2 things- 1. Things that move 2. Things that don't.

03-11-2009, 04:26 PM
rm185western Kid Safe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 5,469	Interesting, and I'm not sure, so didn't vote. The only thing that I was wondering, if you win in Ohio, you'll be relying on her to actually pay up, yes? I know to my cost that winning the case isn't the same as getting the money Now if you go to Texas, and you win, you're going to get your money. I suppose it depends what is important to you, compensation for you, or punishment for her. Mind you if she loses in Texas, might not cost her financially, but a lot of people will know about it. __________________ ________________________________ Food is fuel, it doesn't fix broken hearts, or make bad days better. Choose your fuel wisely

03-11-2009, 04:28 PM
short_kid Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 3,168	It would depend on the judge for me. I would have it aired, that way people would know all about her. I remember your story and she needs to be outed. __________________ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

03-11-2009, 04:30 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Yep-I say do it. Heck I did not even know he was here in Texas. Too bad Texas Justice is no longer on-he was a horse guy! __________________

03-11-2009, 04:32 PM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	interesting i never thought about it that way if we did win if we would even get the money. like you said 95 at least we would get the money, and her horses wouldnt suffer, because honestly i feel thats who would suffer the most whether we stay inour court or go national.im not sure that she is finacially stable, i mean who is. i know she has trouble getting hay every year for winter, but who doesnt. short kid- hi, sorry it took so long to update everybody, was trying to get all of our facts together before we went to court. i would paste a link to the actually thread but im not sure how or if im allowed. __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

03-11-2009, 04:39 PM
dodib Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ravenna, MI Posts: 3,186	Personally I probably wouldn't do it on TV... I have been to county small claims court and I was nervous!! I can't imagine if I knew it was on TV... I didn't say all I wanted etc becuase of the nerves... __________________ Dorthy www.freewebs.com/brownranch/

03-12-2009, 04:51 PM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	well we are still waiting to see if the other party agrees. personally, if we stayed in our county or tv, either way i dont do good in front of judges, makes me nervous anyways. but we will see. __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

03-12-2009, 05:03 PM
Sirita_88 Started Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mt. Juliet, Tennessee Posts: 2,415	hmm. Judge judy was going to pay $5000 no matter what the outcome. Like whoever wins wins the money and the leftover is split between parties. Judge Alex is weakkkkk lol.

03-14-2009, 11:52 AM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	grama sassy: i would have to say justice. just to let her know that we were kidding around when we said this was serious and wasnt something to just blow off. __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

03-14-2009, 01:17 PM
PaintsQH Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 3,678	Anyway you can find the original thread? I dont know the whole story behind this so I wouldnt know what I would be voting on. Did they know the stallion had the virus and refuse to handle the situations, sorry im clueless __________________ Angels descending, bring from above, Echoes of mercy, whispers of love.

03-14-2009, 01:55 PM
Sunlei Long Yearling Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,322	Sounds like a fun free vacation I don't know what the max award is ,but it sounds like you have a Vets proof and can document your losses. Just what a Judge wants to see. I remember your origional post, it was terrible what happened to your mares. With those pictures you have- it will be hard for the breeder to defend why she didn't notice all those sores. She may say no to TV, if she has some way to defend against your Vets records. She may say yes aswell, to have a vacation and get her judgement paid. Standing on TV and winning could reachout and educate thousands of mare owners about this issue. A lot of people love those shows and her name and town is said. Shows are taped in advance so you will have time to post the showing date....everyone in your town horse person or not will see you on TV and they will learn about that 'breeder' aswell. In a regular court the issue/judgement is important or noticed by only a few people. Sounds like an exiciting vacation and so cool they pay for everyone.

03-14-2009, 02:18 PM
BabyMay Started Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,779	Thats what I was thinking. __________________ For the love of all animals.

03-14-2009, 03:10 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	I won a judgement against a gal in CA for a dog loss..I won but I never got a dime from the judgement against her. Winning does not mean you will recive the money. I would go on TV.. __________________