To boot, or not to boot...kinda long - UPDATE!

harvest_moon · 10-26-2006, 03:34 PM

So I have this boarder in my barn who is driving me absolutely batty. We will call him "Jim", and call the horse "Mo".
Mo is a very young colt. Jim is a first-time horse owner and is on the road alot, so he is very rarely at the barn. And unfortunately, Jim knows NOTHING about horses. Jim and his friend "Becky" who boarded at the same barn before they came to board with me, had this agreement. Since Jim knows nothing about horses. he gave half interest of Mo to Becky, in exchange for Becky taking care of the horse, training etc. Becky boards her horse with me as well. (Yes, I know, confusing, but keep reading).
Long story short, Mo was turned out last weekend and ran into a fence post, needed stitches. I contacted Jim who couldn't be reached. So I called the vet, who came out and took care of Mo. Jim didn't come out until about 4 hours later, after the vet and everybody had left. He talked to another boarder (who wasn't there to witness the incident) and got a totally bogus account of what happened. He has NEVER called me to find out what happened, even though I have left numerous messages.
So Jim gets the vet bill. Now he's furious, telling everybody in my barn that I am responsible. (UH, no, read your contract). He's in MY barn bad mouthing me to everyone when I'm not here.
A week later he decides to sell Mo to Becky, vet bill and all. THEN two days later he backs out of the sale. He comes back to my barn, corners one of my instructors and starts badmouthing me, telling her that I am a liar, etc. Asking all kinds of questions, etc. He has now approached at least 4 of my boarders.
I don't want to make a scene, but I do not want drama in my barn. That is not the kind of facility we operate here. I don't want Becky to take her horse and go, but I do not want Jim here anymore. Not only is he a pain, but I don't have patience for someone who asks me for horse advice and then goes to 5 other people bc he thinks I'm wrong. Plus, I feel that he is a liability.
What do ya'll think?
Thanks in advance!

MLovely · 10-26-2006, 03:54 PM

"Jim" seems like a very un-reasonable person. I would get rid of him, especially since he is so disrespectful to you in YOUR barn

You shouldnt have to deal with that at all, especially from a guy who seems to know nothing...

tuffsmom · 10-26-2006, 04:21 PM

I tell him very nicely that things are just not working out and it would be best if he left. He is already bad mouthing you. Why should you have to put up with anymore? Give him the 30 day notice and just let him leave.

Faceman · 10-26-2006, 04:28 PM

In the light of the harvest moon, with the crisp autumn air fresh in our faces, we stood quietly on the veranda, following the disgruntled silhouette of Jim as he passed slowly over the horizon...

harvest_moon · 10-26-2006, 04:48 PM

ROFLMAO.......THANKS FACEMAN!

Lopin · 10-26-2006, 10:08 PM

"Hit the road, Jack." ....... or would that be Jim?

Lucky1999 · 10-26-2006, 10:22 PM

Yeah, you definetly need to get rid of him. He's stirring up unrest right now, and keeping him around will bite you in the butt later on. Trust me, I've had my fair share of difficult boarders. Haha, luckily we told them to as Lopin said "Hit the road..."

BornToRide · 10-26-2006, 10:32 PM

I had a similar situation at the barn I board at. Someone was accusing the manager of not feeding the man's horses, which even I took as an insult b/c even this man knows that I feed alot of times at night. The owner calmly told him he had three weeks to find new homes for his horses and to not come back. That was the end of him.

I would get the loot and give him the boot! Pronto!

Gotta Love Duns · 10-26-2006, 11:52 PM

Coming from a boaring prospective I can't belive that the boarder stood there and took that kinda bulls**t from him!!!
I know I have been with "my" (hahaha I wish) farm for the last 3ish odd years now and I have seen boarders come and go and they have tried to bad mouth my barn manager, which I don't take to kindly to. This is not only my horses home but mine too, as I'm there just as much! I agree with the rest of the posters and give him his notice and ask him to leave, as he will continue to ruffle as many feathers as he possibly can. Once they have a bee in there bonnett man oh man the rumors start to fly and it can really get ugly!

Good luck!!

Been there and don't want to see it again...

cowgirlmommy · 10-27-2006, 12:36 AM

That is BS the way he is handling EVERYTHING! That is an easy answer, kick his butt out!

paso_lover · 10-27-2006, 07:29 AM

Hey there Harvest, who am I to talk with my own issues

. If I found out someone was bad mouthing me in my own facility.......I wouldn't be so polite.

As us frenchmen put it, "Ah bbuhbyela". Hats off to ya for not wanting to cause a scene but I would confront him when the others are around and ask "what's the problem?" and "if ya got something to say here I am so say it" and if he fumbles with his words and acts like he's done nothing wrong, kindly call him a coward and ask him to leave the premiss and to never return.

Hideaway · 10-27-2006, 07:41 AM

Pasolover put it as I would. I would personally escort him out! It's bull hooey, you don't need him. Some people.

Jadesmygirl · 10-27-2006, 09:40 AM

I would not only kiss Jim goodbye, but possibly the other boarder who gave the bogus account to Jim in the first place. Why would someone do that?Sounds like a pot stirrer to me. In Jim's defense (NOT that he deserves defending really) if someone told me a bogus account of how my horse was hurt-I would not think they'd have reason to lie and might believe them too?? That is NOT to say I agree with or condone how Jim is handling himself. But if the pot stirrer stays, history is very likely to repeat itself-with or without Jim.

cowgirlmommy · 10-27-2006, 10:53 AM

As much as I agree with every one and as I said above, it is BS, I personally would not stoop to his level and belittle him in front of the other boarders. I would definitely call him on it in front of some of them that he said things too, therefore making it impossible for him to lie and say he did nothing! And then still boot him out! I really believe that handling things in a civil and respectful manner (even though he did not act that way), it shows you are the bigger person and as the barn owner, that will reflect better on you. And as I said before though, still get rid of him because as jadesmygirl said, with the same s**t disturber there, history will repeat itslf! Good luck!

miss leanne · 10-27-2006, 11:04 AM

so? didja boot him yet?

Mariuch · 10-27-2006, 11:24 AM

Hmmmm, something happens to my horse at the barn that requires a vet visit, who should I ask to find out what happened???

Oh yeah the logical answer would definately be another boarder that wasn't there at the time. HUH??

Geee my first reaction would be to ask the barn manager (go figure) and thank her for taking care of my horse.

Some people just lack that common sense. Hopefully he has enough to find his way out of the driveway when you kick him to the curb.

harvest_moon · 10-27-2006, 11:36 AM

I'm laying in wait for him lol....he should be out this weekend. But maybe not. I think he knows what's coming.
Everybody who knows me knows that I have a big mouth lol and I don't take kindly to people messing with me or my livelihood. The more I think about what he has said about me and my facility, the angrier I get. I am afraid that I'll call him out in front of everybody and I will be less than a lady

I would definitely take GREAT satisfaction in doing so. But I don't want to look unprofessional, either. (sigh) and the sad thing is, I REALLY love his horse.....such a cute little guy. It's not his fault his owner is such an

And the other boarder who ran his mouth? He's on his way out too. He is another wannabe, who is mouthy and thinks he knows everything. I had to tell him off a few weeks ago when he got nasty with my 9 yo daughter. His walking papers are out there waiting for him....
Alas, the trouble makers must go. I will definitely keep ya'll posted!
Anyone need a few stalls in Ohio?? lol

thumpersgirl · 10-27-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by harvest_moon

And the other boarder who ran his mouth? He's on his way out too. He is another wannabe, who is mouthy and thinks he knows everything. I had to tell him off a few weeks ago when he got nasty with my 9 yo daughter. His walking papers are out there waiting for him....

This man would be removing my foot from his butt if he got in my childs face. You are much more restrained that I would be about this whole situation. I agree with the others, boot 'em both to the curb!

Lucky1999 · 10-27-2006, 11:57 PM

Grrr.

I can't believe the other boarder is not already gone for getting nasty with your daughter! Good for you for getting rid of them both!

Please let us know how the booting goes!!

iris_surreal_euphoria · 10-28-2006, 12:58 AM

Not only boot him, tell him if he steps foot on the property again you'll have him arrested for trespassing, sue him for the vet bill and get him for defaming your character.

That guy crossed the lines.

Keep us posted.

10-26-2006, 03:34 PM
harvest_moon Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 606	To boot, or not to boot...kinda long - UPDATE! So I have this boarder in my barn who is driving me absolutely batty. We will call him "Jim", and call the horse "Mo". Mo is a very young colt. Jim is a first-time horse owner and is on the road alot, so he is very rarely at the barn. And unfortunately, Jim knows NOTHING about horses. Jim and his friend "Becky" who boarded at the same barn before they came to board with me, had this agreement. Since Jim knows nothing about horses. he gave half interest of Mo to Becky, in exchange for Becky taking care of the horse, training etc. Becky boards her horse with me as well. (Yes, I know, confusing, but keep reading). Long story short, Mo was turned out last weekend and ran into a fence post, needed stitches. I contacted Jim who couldn't be reached. So I called the vet, who came out and took care of Mo. Jim didn't come out until about 4 hours later, after the vet and everybody had left. He talked to another boarder (who wasn't there to witness the incident) and got a totally bogus account of what happened. He has NEVER called me to find out what happened, even though I have left numerous messages. So Jim gets the vet bill. Now he's furious, telling everybody in my barn that I am responsible. (UH, no, read your contract). He's in MY barn bad mouthing me to everyone when I'm not here. A week later he decides to sell Mo to Becky, vet bill and all. THEN two days later he backs out of the sale. He comes back to my barn, corners one of my instructors and starts badmouthing me, telling her that I am a liar, etc. Asking all kinds of questions, etc. He has now approached at least 4 of my boarders. I don't want to make a scene, but I do not want drama in my barn. That is not the kind of facility we operate here. I don't want Becky to take her horse and go, but I do not want Jim here anymore. Not only is he a pain, but I don't have patience for someone who asks me for horse advice and then goes to 5 other people bc he thinks I'm wrong. Plus, I feel that he is a liability. What do ya'll think? Thanks in advance! __________________ If wishes were horses, beggars would ride...

10-26-2006, 03:54 PM
MLovely Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,105	"Jim" seems like a very un-reasonable person. I would get rid of him, especially since he is so disrespectful to you in YOUR barn You shouldnt have to deal with that at all, especially from a guy who seems to know nothing...

10-26-2006, 04:21 PM
tuffsmom Seasoned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 4,233	I tell him very nicely that things are just not working out and it would be best if he left. He is already bad mouthing you. Why should you have to put up with anymore? Give him the 30 day notice and just let him leave.

10-26-2006, 04:28 PM
Faceman Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkansas Ozarks Posts: 7,257	In the light of the harvest moon, with the crisp autumn air fresh in our faces, we stood quietly on the veranda, following the disgruntled silhouette of Jim as he passed slowly over the horizon... __________________ Read what I said, not what you THINK I said...

10-26-2006, 04:48 PM
harvest_moon Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 606	ROFLMAO.......THANKS FACEMAN! __________________ If wishes were horses, beggars would ride...

10-26-2006, 10:08 PM
Lopin Coming two Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Home of Brett Favre Posts: 1,723	"Hit the road, Jack." ....... or would that be Jim? __________________ Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

10-26-2006, 10:22 PM
Lucky1999 Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nicholasville, KY Posts: 578	Yeah, you definetly need to get rid of him. He's stirring up unrest right now, and keeping him around will bite you in the butt later on. Trust me, I've had my fair share of difficult boarders. Haha, luckily we told them to as Lopin said "Hit the road..." __________________ And may the \"horse\" be with you! Alpha Farm - www.horsecampusa.com

10-26-2006, 10:32 PM
BornToRide Long Yearling Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,470	I had a similar situation at the barn I board at. Someone was accusing the manager of not feeding the man's horses, which even I took as an insult b/c even this man knows that I feed alot of times at night. The owner calmly told him he had three weeks to find new homes for his horses and to not come back. That was the end of him. I would get the loot and give him the boot! Pronto! __________________ There's something about the outside of a horse that's good for the inside of a man.-Winston Churchill

10-26-2006, 11:52 PM
Gotta Love Duns Bombproof Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dixonville, Alberta Posts: 8,420	Coming from a boaring prospective I can't belive that the boarder stood there and took that kinda bulls**t from him!!! I know I have been with "my" (hahaha I wish) farm for the last 3ish odd years now and I have seen boarders come and go and they have tried to bad mouth my barn manager, which I don't take to kindly to. This is not only my horses home but mine too, as I'm there just as much! I agree with the rest of the posters and give him his notice and ask him to leave, as he will continue to ruffle as many feathers as he possibly can. Once they have a bee in there bonnett man oh man the rumors start to fly and it can really get ugly! Good luck!! Been there and don't want to see it again... __________________ A penny saved is a penny you can spend on your next horse. http://nightfireranch.webs.com/index.htm

10-27-2006, 12:36 AM
cowgirlmommy Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Rocky Mountains of British Columbia! Posts: 1,459	That is BS the way he is handling EVERYTHING! That is an easy answer, kick his butt out! __________________ "The only way to begin again, is to first forget..." Colonel Francis Clay Mosby

10-27-2006, 07:29 AM
paso_lover Seasoned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sudbury Ontario Canada Posts: 4,825	Hey there Harvest, who am I to talk with my own issues . If I found out someone was bad mouthing me in my own facility.......I wouldn't be so polite. As us frenchmen put it, "Ah bbuhbyela". Hats off to ya for not wanting to cause a scene but I would confront him when the others are around and ask "what's the problem?" and "if ya got something to say here I am so say it" and if he fumbles with his words and acts like he's done nothing wrong, kindly call him a coward and ask him to leave the premiss and to never return. __________________ "I wish I was half the rider she thinks she is" \"Some people feel compelled to cut off the heads of others in order to make themselves appear taller\" ---Paramahansa Yoginanda

10-27-2006, 07:41 AM
Hideaway Started Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,037	Pasolover put it as I would. I would personally escort him out! It's bull hooey, you don't need him. Some people.

10-27-2006, 09:40 AM
Jadesmygirl Started Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,543	I would not only kiss Jim goodbye, but possibly the other boarder who gave the bogus account to Jim in the first place. Why would someone do that?Sounds like a pot stirrer to me. In Jim's defense (NOT that he deserves defending really) if someone told me a bogus account of how my horse was hurt-I would not think they'd have reason to lie and might believe them too?? That is NOT to say I agree with or condone how Jim is handling himself. But if the pot stirrer stays, history is very likely to repeat itself-with or without Jim.

10-27-2006, 10:53 AM
cowgirlmommy Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Rocky Mountains of British Columbia! Posts: 1,459	As much as I agree with every one and as I said above, it is BS, I personally would not stoop to his level and belittle him in front of the other boarders. I would definitely call him on it in front of some of them that he said things too, therefore making it impossible for him to lie and say he did nothing! And then still boot him out! I really believe that handling things in a civil and respectful manner (even though he did not act that way), it shows you are the bigger person and as the barn owner, that will reflect better on you. And as I said before though, still get rid of him because as jadesmygirl said, with the same s**t disturber there, history will repeat itslf! Good luck! __________________ "The only way to begin again, is to first forget..." Colonel Francis Clay Mosby

10-27-2006, 11:04 AM
miss leanne Seasoned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,532	so? didja boot him yet?

10-27-2006, 11:24 AM
Mariuch Long Yearling Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southeast NH Posts: 1,046	Hmmmm, something happens to my horse at the barn that requires a vet visit, who should I ask to find out what happened??? Oh yeah the logical answer would definately be another boarder that wasn't there at the time. HUH?? Geee my first reaction would be to ask the barn manager (go figure) and thank her for taking care of my horse. Some people just lack that common sense. Hopefully he has enough to find his way out of the driveway when you kick him to the curb.

10-27-2006, 11:36 AM
harvest_moon Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 606	I'm laying in wait for him lol....he should be out this weekend. But maybe not. I think he knows what's coming. Everybody who knows me knows that I have a big mouth lol and I don't take kindly to people messing with me or my livelihood. The more I think about what he has said about me and my facility, the angrier I get. I am afraid that I'll call him out in front of everybody and I will be less than a lady I would definitely take GREAT satisfaction in doing so. But I don't want to look unprofessional, either. (sigh) and the sad thing is, I REALLY love his horse.....such a cute little guy. It's not his fault his owner is such an And the other boarder who ran his mouth? He's on his way out too. He is another wannabe, who is mouthy and thinks he knows everything. I had to tell him off a few weeks ago when he got nasty with my 9 yo daughter. His walking papers are out there waiting for him.... Alas, the trouble makers must go. I will definitely keep ya'll posted! Anyone need a few stalls in Ohio?? lol __________________ If wishes were horses, beggars would ride...

10-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Lucky1999 Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nicholasville, KY Posts: 578	Grrr. I can't believe the other boarder is not already gone for getting nasty with your daughter! Good for you for getting rid of them both! Please let us know how the booting goes!! __________________ And may the \"horse\" be with you! Alpha Farm - www.horsecampusa.com

10-28-2006, 12:58 AM
iris_surreal_euphoria Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset, Kentucky Posts: 1,077	Not only boot him, tell him if he steps foot on the property again you'll have him arrested for trespassing, sue him for the vet bill and get him for defaming your character. That guy crossed the lines. Keep us posted. __________________ If wishes were horses this room would need a good mucking! Visit our website: http://www.freewebs.com/lazziassacres/