Dust Control

Funyfarm · 10-15-2009, 01:55 PM

Hey everyone...

So... I've got an issue.. and my boarders don't think its a small one! SOOO need some help please.

My arena isn't very big at all... its about 118' x 64' but the sand in it is fairly old.. about 13 yrs old.. so its FINE, and really dusty. I don't own the place, I rent it and run my boarding stable out of there.. SO putting a ton of money into it is not much of an option, the owner doesn't really want to put brand new sand in it. Which I can understand as he's not a horse person and its fairly expensive. I've looked at the petro canada site and found some stuff called Dust Suppressant Fluid and found some stuff called MAG out of the states.. I'm in Alberta Canada... Have any of you used either of these products and if so what was the cost of them. One of my boarders had suggested that I put peat moss in the arena and miss it around... has anyone done this before.. I think it would be a great idea.. it would for sure absorb anything. We've watered it down but it gets really hard and almost cement like. and being that its getting colder it will only freeze if we water it in the winter....

Does anyone have any other suggestions that would be CHEAPER??

Thanks in advance.

horselady · 10-15-2009, 06:29 PM

I have a 120 x 60 indoor arena, and it was alot of dust. someone donated salt, calicum for me to use on my road, hubby suggested I use it to control the dust in the arena.'
Sooo trusty manager and I spread 7 bags, than sprinkled with water and lo and behold no dust and no freezing of the sand at all.

WestCoastRambler · 10-16-2009, 09:39 AM

My boss added a chemical to our arena last summer that was supposed to control the dust...unfortunately I don't know what it was called

I DO know that it did the trick for about 2 days

Normally we just take a fire hose and hose it every day. It's a massive hassle and takes forever wrapping the hose up. A friend of mine installed a sprinkler system in her arena - just turns it on for a bit every morning. Not so much that it becomes mud, but enough to keep the dust down for the day.

I don't think the sand in either arena is very old though...ours is barely a couple of years old. I'm not sure how the finer sand would hole up to a sprinkler...

EquineAlberta · 10-16-2009, 11:12 AM

CaCl2 added to the sand will help on two counts; the footing won't freeze, and it will hold in moisture. You add the Calcium Chloride and then water. Don't leave anything metal in the arena though as it will cause rust!

One big bag (like a hay cubes tote bag) should be more than enough for the ring.

Peat moss will also get dusty as it is a very fine particle when it breaks down. You will also have issues with freezing. If you want to go a cheap route, then "Green" shavings would be a better solution. Parkland Chip sells bulk green shavings (shavings that aren't dried out).

karen

Funyfarm · 10-19-2009, 09:35 AM

Hi there Karen,

A small world out there.. I used to work with Rob at Carmacks last year i suppose it was.. He told me about your place before I even had mine started... I'm natural farrier and I think thats how we got talking about horses... SO HI!!! As for the CaCl2... where can I get some.. I did talk to the "landlord" and he'd rather no shavings or peat, as they will break down and its no good then.. he mentioned Potassium Chloride as well would work.. same thing just potassuim instead of calcuim... I have no idea where to get this stuff.. lol or how much its worth.. sounds like it'd be the best bet, as the water does make the sand fairly hard... and last night with 4 of us in there working horses it was pretty icky even though we did water it down prior.

Thanks so much everyone!

Funyfarm · 10-19-2009, 04:47 PM

Something someone else told me.. actually Cathy Nichol.. they use Potash in their arena... does anyone know where to get it here in Canada.. or Alberta to be more specific.

Thanks!

EquineAlberta · 10-21-2009, 12:36 PM

I think Gary Westerguard (GW Equine) may sell the CaCl...but I might be wrong.

No idea about Potash (which is Potassium Chloride isn't it?). I think you would have to look to Saskatchewan for that as isn't that where all the Potash mines are?

You are at what used to be Skorrybrook right? I remember how dusty that footing would be when we would show there. Have you priced out new sand? Long term the best option would likely be new sand and then an additive to keep it from freezing/drying. It might not be as much as you think to get new sand in.

Good luck with the place! It looked like it had potential!

Karen

Funyfarm · 10-26-2009, 02:58 PM

I'll check out Gary for CaCL to see if he sells is.. and ya thats what it used to be. I'd like to put new sand.. someone that works at Amberlea got a price from their guy and it was $1200 a load... and i'd need 2 loads.. But its all outta my pocket.. and since I don't own the place, i'm much rather not foot the bill for the whole thing.. BUT i may end up doing that this summer anyhow... Trying to find someone with a sand pit on their property so that I can just haul from there myself.

Thanks so much

EquineAlberta · 10-26-2009, 11:23 PM

$1200 a load seems high to me. I don't think we paid near that...maybe more like $800 for a pup and truck? You would likely just need one tandem truck wouldn't you? Call around and you may be able to get a better price.

You would still need to CaCL or something though to keep it from freezing as the sand will be damp.

Karen

Funyfarm · 10-27-2009, 05:41 PM

I will check around.. I did find a place that has the CaCl and its not to badly priced.. the flakes/pellets are 18.48$ a bag.. and i'd not need a full pallet but then i'd have some left over for high traffic areas.. so that was nice to hear. Now to find new sand.. LOL
Thank you Karen

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10-15-2009, 01:55 PM
Funyfarm Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leduc Posts: 16	Dust Control Hey everyone... So... I've got an issue.. and my boarders don't think its a small one! SOOO need some help please. My arena isn't very big at all... its about 118' x 64' but the sand in it is fairly old.. about 13 yrs old.. so its FINE, and really dusty. I don't own the place, I rent it and run my boarding stable out of there.. SO putting a ton of money into it is not much of an option, the owner doesn't really want to put brand new sand in it. Which I can understand as he's not a horse person and its fairly expensive. I've looked at the petro canada site and found some stuff called Dust Suppressant Fluid and found some stuff called MAG out of the states.. I'm in Alberta Canada... Have any of you used either of these products and if so what was the cost of them. One of my boarders had suggested that I put peat moss in the arena and miss it around... has anyone done this before.. I think it would be a great idea.. it would for sure absorb anything. We've watered it down but it gets really hard and almost cement like. and being that its getting colder it will only freeze if we water it in the winter.... Does anyone have any other suggestions that would be CHEAPER?? Thanks in advance.

10-15-2009, 06:29 PM
horselady Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: albany new york Posts: 6,428	I have a 120 x 60 indoor arena, and it was alot of dust. someone donated salt, calicum for me to use on my road, hubby suggested I use it to control the dust in the arena.' Sooo trusty manager and I spread 7 bags, than sprinkled with water and lo and behold no dust and no freezing of the sand at all. __________________ www.rainbow-horse-retirement.com We love and take care of your companion for the remainder of his lifetime

10-16-2009, 09:39 AM
WestCoastRambler Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Burnaby, BC Posts: 215	My boss added a chemical to our arena last summer that was supposed to control the dust...unfortunately I don't know what it was called I DO know that it did the trick for about 2 days Normally we just take a fire hose and hose it every day. It's a massive hassle and takes forever wrapping the hose up. A friend of mine installed a sprinkler system in her arena - just turns it on for a bit every morning. Not so much that it becomes mud, but enough to keep the dust down for the day. I don't think the sand in either arena is very old though...ours is barely a couple of years old. I'm not sure how the finer sand would hole up to a sprinkler... __________________ Man does not rightly know the way of the heavenly world, but the horse does rightly know it. ~Satapatha Brahmana XIII

10-16-2009, 11:12 AM
EquineAlberta Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,004	CaCl2 added to the sand will help on two counts; the footing won't freeze, and it will hold in moisture. You add the Calcium Chloride and then water. Don't leave anything metal in the arena though as it will cause rust! One big bag (like a hay cubes tote bag) should be more than enough for the ring. Peat moss will also get dusty as it is a very fine particle when it breaks down. You will also have issues with freezing. If you want to go a cheap route, then "Green" shavings would be a better solution. Parkland Chip sells bulk green shavings (shavings that aren't dried out). karen __________________ New Hillside Website The Art of Praise

10-19-2009, 09:35 AM
Funyfarm Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leduc Posts: 16	Hi there Karen, A small world out there.. I used to work with Rob at Carmacks last year i suppose it was.. He told me about your place before I even had mine started... I'm natural farrier and I think thats how we got talking about horses... SO HI!!! As for the CaCl2... where can I get some.. I did talk to the "landlord" and he'd rather no shavings or peat, as they will break down and its no good then.. he mentioned Potassium Chloride as well would work.. same thing just potassuim instead of calcuim... I have no idea where to get this stuff.. lol or how much its worth.. sounds like it'd be the best bet, as the water does make the sand fairly hard... and last night with 4 of us in there working horses it was pretty icky even though we did water it down prior. Thanks so much everyone! __________________ Nature's Way Hoof Trimming www.natureswayhooftrimming.webs.com Railside Stables www.railsidestables.webs.com

10-19-2009, 04:47 PM
Funyfarm Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leduc Posts: 16	Something someone else told me.. actually Cathy Nichol.. they use Potash in their arena... does anyone know where to get it here in Canada.. or Alberta to be more specific. Thanks! __________________ Nature's Way Hoof Trimming www.natureswayhooftrimming.webs.com Railside Stables www.railsidestables.webs.com

10-21-2009, 12:36 PM
EquineAlberta Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,004	I think Gary Westerguard (GW Equine) may sell the CaCl...but I might be wrong. No idea about Potash (which is Potassium Chloride isn't it?). I think you would have to look to Saskatchewan for that as isn't that where all the Potash mines are? You are at what used to be Skorrybrook right? I remember how dusty that footing would be when we would show there. Have you priced out new sand? Long term the best option would likely be new sand and then an additive to keep it from freezing/drying. It might not be as much as you think to get new sand in. Good luck with the place! It looked like it had potential! Karen __________________ New Hillside Website The Art of Praise

10-26-2009, 02:58 PM
Funyfarm Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leduc Posts: 16	I'll check out Gary for CaCL to see if he sells is.. and ya thats what it used to be. I'd like to put new sand.. someone that works at Amberlea got a price from their guy and it was $1200 a load... and i'd need 2 loads.. But its all outta my pocket.. and since I don't own the place, i'm much rather not foot the bill for the whole thing.. BUT i may end up doing that this summer anyhow... Trying to find someone with a sand pit on their property so that I can just haul from there myself. Thanks so much __________________ Nature's Way Hoof Trimming www.natureswayhooftrimming.webs.com Railside Stables www.railsidestables.webs.com

10-26-2009, 11:23 PM
EquineAlberta Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,004	$1200 a load seems high to me. I don't think we paid near that...maybe more like $800 for a pup and truck? You would likely just need one tandem truck wouldn't you? Call around and you may be able to get a better price. You would still need to CaCL or something though to keep it from freezing as the sand will be damp. Karen __________________ New Hillside Website The Art of Praise

10-27-2009, 05:41 PM
Funyfarm Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leduc Posts: 16	I will check around.. I did find a place that has the CaCl and its not to badly priced.. the flakes/pellets are 18.48$ a bag.. and i'd not need a full pallet but then i'd have some left over for high traffic areas.. so that was nice to hear. Now to find new sand.. LOL Thank you Karen __________________ Nature's Way Hoof Trimming www.natureswayhooftrimming.webs.com Railside Stables www.railsidestables.webs.com